tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post2480136647903991128..comments2024-03-25T09:43:27.402-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: Moving yeshivos out of danger zones: doesn't Torah protect?Chaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-68162131209751722592009-01-13T10:47:00.000-05:002009-01-13T10:47:00.000-05:00I was thinking along the same lines as well. If o...I was thinking along the same lines as well. If one takes the idea of protection to a limitless degree than one has a kashe unfortunately from so many times in Jewish history that we know communities were destroyed despite their piety and Torah scholarship.Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-83649779269302504602009-01-13T06:16:00.000-05:002009-01-13T06:16:00.000-05:00Unfortunately, a better proof of your point is wha...Unfortunately, a better proof of your point is what happened to the Yeshivot that did not flee.<BR/>BTW, most gedolim, apparently mindful of the disastrous spiritual consequences of the exodus of yeshivot in WWI, were against leaving during WWII. It was Rav Leib Malin who organized the movement in Mir to escape.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-57546031558287435312009-01-12T16:35:00.000-05:002009-01-12T16:35:00.000-05:00That escape included saving the likes of R' Chaim ...<I>That escape included saving the likes of R' Chaim Shmuelevitz, R' Yerucham Lebovitz, etc. Question: if Torah protects, why not just leave the yeshiva intact in Europe?</I><BR/><BR/>Of note; those who went to Shanghai felt that their protection was only due to being part of the Yeshiva.My grandfather had a visa to leave Shanghai and was told by the Roshey Yeshiva, not risk the solitary trip through hostile waters as staying with the (zchus of) Yeshiva would be more secure.Two bochrim who did not heed that advice, were intercepted along that way and spent the war years in a prison camp alone.Both severely regreted it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com