tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post3086655201023427499..comments2024-03-28T21:21:02.777-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: rebuke demands a reactionChaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-16082009624940100882014-06-06T15:45:55.091-04:002014-06-06T15:45:55.091-04:00very true. maybe the charon af is part of the mus...very true. maybe the charon af is part of the mussar -- it has to be shown as part of the process of tochacha, but is not itself the root cause of the tochacha.<br />The Netziv makes a similar point -- he reads the "vayeilach" not as "G-d's presence departed" but rather as "the charon af/anger departed." Before giving Miriam her punishment, G-d waited for his anger to subside. Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-2535708694771749922014-06-06T14:21:59.947-04:002014-06-06T14:21:59.947-04:00What a find!
Reminds me of the baalei mussar tha...What a find!<br /> Reminds me of the baalei mussar that say that the tipping point of Adam's exile was that he blamed Chava which showed that his hakaras hatov to the ribono shel olam for giving her to him was imperfect. The similarities are that we are quick to assume we understand what the Ribono shel Olam is angry about, when sometimes it's actually something more subtle, and that the sin is sometimes easier to rectify than is the failure to react properly when it's pointed out.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-55968040486354415232014-06-06T13:43:28.061-04:002014-06-06T13:43:28.061-04:00Another possibility: God is teaching us not to giv...Another possibility: God is teaching us not to give rebuke/mussar from a place of anger. Hashem rebukes *before* he expresses charon af (ki-vi-yachol), not at the same time.<br />Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14371365602074869132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-81327671735939346652014-06-06T13:41:36.537-04:002014-06-06T13:41:36.537-04:00(and maybe ain hachi nami - they WERE contrite her...(and maybe ain hachi nami - they WERE contrite here),jake lassonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16213011522326136813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-79914937884228143012014-06-06T13:40:40.912-04:002014-06-06T13:40:40.912-04:00hmm... but what about the story of the sefas emes ...hmm... but what about the story of the sefas emes (Ibelieve) who just remained silent when he got rebuked by his grandfather (CHR) -? It seemed to me that it was a positive that he was Mekabel the Tochacha in silent "approval".jake lassonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16213011522326136813noreply@blogger.com