tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post4198269825290386728..comments2024-03-28T21:21:02.777-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: the mitzvah of emunah and levels of beliefChaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-16181389149845472582009-02-15T19:37:00.000-05:002009-02-15T19:37:00.000-05:00Just because the imaginative faculty is also innat...Just because the imaginative faculty is also innate, does that mean that it is the same thing as belief? Many different types of thought are innately part of our character - it doesn't mean they are all the same. Apples and oranges. Sorry, i don't see your point.Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-73768478285818387422009-02-15T18:31:00.000-05:002009-02-15T18:31:00.000-05:00When you say:that belief in G-d is part of our ess...When you say:<BR/><BR/>that belief in G-d is part of our essence, something which is natural to every human,<BR/><BR/>I understand that to mean that without yediah we are predisposed to belief. We therefore believe because of innate element that sounds very similar to the imaginative faculty, which is too innate and intuitive based on experience. <BR/><BR/>You also contradict yourself. If it is in all humans why do you then continue and explain Rambam's not being at Sinai with it? <BR/><BR/>BTW Rambam does not hold that Jews are different.David Guttmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-60999632264196420812009-02-15T18:17:00.000-05:002009-02-15T18:17:00.000-05:00>>>so you leave the Mitzvah of Emunah tot...>>>so you leave the Mitzvah of Emunah totally to the Koach Hamedameh,<BR/><BR/>Sorry, but please tell me where in this post you see any such thing.<BR/><BR/>There is absolutely no relationship between what I am writing about, i.e. the issue of whether emunah is innate or whether it must be developed and learned, and what you are reading into the post and commenting on. <BR/><BR/>R' Tzadok's approach is echoed nearly verbatim by the Malbi"m (Shmos 20:1) who cites the Rambam as his source that emunah is innate. Do you think the Malb"im is also conflating shitos?Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-91344032916841256022009-02-15T06:22:00.000-05:002009-02-15T06:22:00.000-05:00>the imaginative faculty with as little guidanc...>the imaginative faculty with as little guidance from the Sichli<BR/><BR/>add as possible - to the sentence.David Guttmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-62495127475293600402009-02-15T05:02:00.000-05:002009-02-15T05:02:00.000-05:00so you leave the Mitzvah of Emunah totally to the ...so you leave the Mitzvah of Emunah totally to the Koach Hamedameh, the imaginative faculty with as little guidance from the Sichli, as you quoted from the BH in your last post! I can accept this b'shem R. Tzadok, R. Elchonon or even the BH but please do not imply that is Rambam's yediah! You are falling for the classic trap of jumbling different Shitos as Lo Plug!David Guttmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.com