tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post4700028376270507702..comments2024-03-28T21:21:02.777-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: saying one's own bracha vs. listening to the shaliach tzibbur (shomea k'oneh)Chaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-28625053437815709372007-04-19T14:38:00.000-04:002007-04-19T14:38:00.000-04:00My grandfather who davenned at Maimonodies for sev...My grandfather who davenned at Maimonodies for several decades told me just that -- that everyone began the bracha for Hallel together and the shatz did not recite. IIRC, R'Reichman in his sefer on Sukkah on the shomea ke-oneh sugya (daf 38) develops this idea of the Rav ztl and the distinction between aniyas amen (as if you said it yourself and you don't need kavanah) and shomea ke-oneh (need kavanah to be yotzai), and proves his point from a diyuk in the Rambam. (My other grandfather showed me a piece in the mishnas yaaveyz who reads that same Rambam differently than the Rav). <BR/><BR/> Personally, both with sefiras ha-omer and with Hallel, I either say the bracha with the chazan or specifically have in mind not to be yotzai with the beracha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-36580403962377964582007-04-19T14:33:00.000-04:002007-04-19T14:33:00.000-04:00by the seder - some brochos everyone says and some...by the seder - some brochos everyone says and some only one - why?Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.com