tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post7608135062793649858..comments2024-03-28T21:21:02.777-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: the dual kedusha of Eretz YisraelChaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-77959165396804063162013-04-15T12:51:09.704-04:002013-04-15T12:51:09.704-04:00Yes. You're right. I was just wondering abou...Yes. You're right. I was just wondering about the sugya, and one of the pshatim I thought about happened to be not like the Rav, but that's my problem, not his. Of course there are many pshatim in the sugya, some better, some worse.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-42030226110597581072013-04-15T09:42:19.259-04:002013-04-15T09:42:19.259-04:00Forget any torah of the Rav. Let me ask you this ...Forget any torah of the Rav. Let me ask you this -- why did the gemara need to come on to mitzvos ha'teluyos ba'aretz, where eretz yisrael is just a tnai in the chiyuv? Why not just say straight that Moshe wanted to go there because yishuv ha'aretz is itself a mitzvah? It's not because you can be mekayeim other mitzvos there -- it's because being there in Eretz Yisrael gufa is itself a mitzvah.<br /><br />That's essentially the same question you are asking, isn't it? It's not a kashe on me, it's a kashe on that sugya. <br /><br />Do you agree? chaim b.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-84464959933957552912013-04-15T06:17:24.730-04:002013-04-15T06:17:24.730-04:00Maybe you could explain to me the Gemara in Sota 1...Maybe you could explain to me the Gemara in Sota 14a, where Rav Simlai asks why Moshe Rabbeinu so desired to enter EY, and answers because of mitzvos hatluyos ba'aretz. דרש רבי שמלאי מפני מה נתאוה משה רבינו ליכנס לא"י וכי לאכול מפריה הוא צריך או לשבוע מטובה הוא צריך אלא כך אמר משה הרבה מצות נצטוו ישראל ואין מתקיימין אלא בא"י אכנס אני לארץ כדי שיתקיימו כולן על ידי <br />What kind of question is that??? If EY has a matchless kedusha, isn't that reason enough???? Unless pshat is that before they were mekadeish, it didn't. But first of all, that's contrary to your quote from the Rav. Secondly, who cares that it wasn't kodesh yet. When it would become kodesh, it would be a most desirable place to be. Unless the pshat is that at that time, equivalent kedusha was present in the Midbar because of the Ananim and so forth.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.com