tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post866768842921099181..comments2024-03-25T09:43:27.402-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: besoros vs. shemu'osChaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-66594746040428102472009-08-03T13:24:13.277-04:002009-08-03T13:24:13.277-04:00Good points. Those conversations have a big to...Good points. Those conversations have a big to'eles.Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-34681706719819177022009-08-03T13:08:14.417-04:002009-08-03T13:08:14.417-04:00Exactly - discussing these events is incredibly im...Exactly - discussing these events is incredibly important. It should be focused on two questions: "why did this happen" and "how can we make sure it doesn't happen again"Akiva Mhttp://www.torahexchange.proboards.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-29744236849838183872009-08-03T05:50:01.013-04:002009-08-03T05:50:01.013-04:00The problem isn't with discussing the news, it...The problem isn't with discussing the news, it's with the lack of to'eles.<br /><br />IOW, if the discussion were about how to make a more moral culture so that people wouldn't have such lapses of judgment, I doubt you would object. Like the asifa the Agudah advertised which drew an audience of 2,000.<br /><br />The real problem is the prevalence of leitzanus, the conversations and blogs whose sole purpose is to criticize others so as to feel better about oneself in comparison. Thereby actually avoiding doing something productive.<br /><br />There are blogs we don't allow links to on Avodah or Areivim because this characterizes too many of their posts.<br /><br />Haging out with koferim is not as dangerous; many people are strong enough to read someone else's claim and have no problem realizing that an answer exists -- even if they don't know what it is.<br /><br />Leitzanus uses sarcasm and cynicism to operate on an emotional level, so that each impression gets under the conscious barriers and whittles a little something away.<br /><br />-michamicha bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11612144735431285113noreply@blogger.com