tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post8768655652509907..comments2024-03-28T21:21:02.777-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: the brothers' admission of guilt and Reuvain's responseChaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-66737064911574076872011-12-29T18:53:43.187-05:002011-12-29T18:53:43.187-05:00>>>By what right did the brothers set up ...>>>By what right did the brothers set up an ad-hoc beit din without any consultation with Yaakov and/or Yitzchak?<br /><br />Why would they have to consult Yitzchok or Ya'akov to setup a B"D?Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-72458184125226558282011-12-29T14:20:17.199-05:002011-12-29T14:20:17.199-05:00By what right did the brothers set up an ad-hoc be...By what right did the brothers set up an ad-hoc beit din without any consultation with Yaakov and/or Yitzchak? If they had no such right, its proceedings would also be invalid and its verdict unenforceable.Bob Millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-72626576386196445422011-12-28T19:27:44.130-05:002011-12-28T19:27:44.130-05:00http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/3459...http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/345975/jewish/Spirituality-vs-Leadership.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-38033137530942959632011-12-28T14:58:04.372-05:002011-12-28T14:58:04.372-05:00compared to Kayin's murderousness,
the brother...compared to Kayin's murderousness,<br />the brothers show qualified improvement-- whereas Kayin heard<br />from Hashem Himself, yet proceeded<br />to kill Hevel, the brothers hear<br />only from Reuvain, & suspend their<br />readiness to kill; qualified, because the brothers ignored Yosef's pleas for relief (from persecution), while we don't know whether Kayin, if in fact his victim did not cry out, would have relented did Hevel plea<br /><br />compared to Kayin as firstborn,<br />Reuvain shows... qualified improvement-- he identifies with Yaakov (l'hashivo el-aviv, 37:22),<br />whereas Kayin seems oblivious<br />of a firstborn's connection to<br />father; qualified, for although<br />Reuvain does include Yosef in his<br />firstborn's sense of responsibility<br />toward younger siblings, this could be because he retains<br />demonstrable rank over 10 brothers<br />(after Yosef pulls rank by paternal<br />selection/special clothes/dreams)-- Kayin is left with none to outrank after Hevel's selection by HashemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com