tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post8917708007755549189..comments2024-03-28T21:21:02.777-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: kufra kaparah - eidim zomimim who testify someone is chayav misah b'ydei shamayimChaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-77637017611006397942008-01-31T16:43:00.000-05:002008-01-31T16:43:00.000-05:00Boy, I forgot that KM (20:2). I apologize to the K...Boy, I forgot that KM (20:2). I apologize to the Kanfei Yonah. It's really time to go back to school. Your BIL is right. You takkeh know something. (He was far more complimentary, by the way.)Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-2403866077178107872008-01-31T14:36:00.000-05:002008-01-31T14:36:00.000-05:00The last point is like the Ramban's kashe of why P...The last point is like the Ramban's kashe of why Pharoah was punished - wasn't that just a setup as well? <BR/><BR/>Re: the kal v'chomer being flawed, if I understand you correctly, isn't that exactly the point of the KS"M in hil eidus ch 22 re: why the Rambam does not apply k'asher zamam v'lo ka'aseh asah to either mamon or malkos?Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-83245418586134636032008-01-31T13:56:00.000-05:002008-01-31T13:56:00.000-05:00Is there really a din of velo ka'asher assa? As fa...Is there really a din of velo ka'asher assa? As far as I know, it's just a result of ein onshin min hadin. And if so, the implication is that the kal vachomer is legitimate, and from the dinim of kal vachomer we ought to punish zomemim even ka'asher assa. According to the Ramban's logic, the kal vachomer is flawed.<BR/><BR/>The Kanfei Yonah in Shoftim wants to make a machlokes rishonim on whether the ptur is just ein onshim or a real limud, but you can take it or leave it.<BR/><BR/>Also, according to the Ramban, there should be no chiyuv kaparah for any rotzei'ach beshogeig, because, as it says in Mishpatim, "Ve'ha'elokim ina le'yado," which to me says that it was a set up.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.com