tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post5019176555387317333..comments2024-03-25T09:43:27.402-04:00Comments on Divrei Chaim: divrei rivos b’she’arecha - but not in YerushalayimChaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-13290397978836915632016-09-11T18:13:04.553-04:002016-09-11T18:13:04.553-04:00R' Shaul Yisraeli uses them as an example of h...R' Shaul Yisraeli uses them as an example of harmony despite disagreements, like the gem at the end of the first perek in Yevamos.Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-44458194803525776972016-09-11T11:11:57.791-04:002016-09-11T11:11:57.791-04:00Not to be confused with Beis Hillel and Beis Shama...Not to be confused with Beis Hillel and Beis Shamai!Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02345721828150479572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-72847484486371269842016-09-09T07:07:24.217-04:002016-09-09T07:07:24.217-04:00Very good vort. It's true, People in US don...Very good vort. It's true, People in US don't have a passion for an ideology or hashkafa, their neutral. It is a maala, more "Shalom" politically correct. But it's a major con, you don't really believe in what your living or doing. <br /> (I find it a bit in shteibls, the ashkenazim don't really mind when someone says vyatzmach or nakdishach. But forget it in a sfardi or eidut minyan you'll get yelled off! There's a certain passion for your minhag.) Yybturnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12475392082466169051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-51023038340781889742016-09-09T06:45:07.625-04:002016-09-09T06:45:07.625-04:00Compare.
Sifrei: אפילו מראים בעיניך על שמאל שהוא ...Compare.<br /><br />Sifrei: אפילו מראים בעיניך על שמאל שהוא ימין, ועל ימין שהוא שמאל - שמע להם<br /><br />Rashi: אפילו אומר לך על ימין שהוא שמאל ועל שמאל שהוא ימין וכל שכן כשאומר לך על ימין ימין ועל שמאל שמאל.<br /><br />Yerushalmi Horios 1:1 (vilna ed. 2b): יכול אם יאמרו לך על ימין שהוא שמאל ועל שמאל שהוא ימין, תשמע להם?! תלמוד לומר: 'ללכת ימין ושמאל', שיאמרו לך על ימין שהוא ימין ועל שמאל שהוא שמאל<br /><br />The Yerushalmi needn't be arguing with the Sifrei, but Rashi definitely understood the Sifrei in a way that disagrees with the Yerushalmi.<br /><br />The words Rashi doesn't quote from the Sifrei, "מראים בעיניך", allow for Mesechtes Horios. When a mistake is in zil q'ri bei rav, actual על ימין שהוא שמאל, we do not follow the poseiq. When it's a matter that requires hora'ah, and מראים בעיניך על שמאל שהוא ימין, we are mechayavim to follow. Now we get to the meat of the issue -- how are you supposed to know which is which?micha bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11612144735431285113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20173285.post-83981791138957381102016-09-08T22:40:22.490-04:002016-09-08T22:40:22.490-04:00And Shammai and Hillel, who were definitely in the...And Shammai and Hillel, who were definitely in the lishkas hagazis?pellehDinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08182620985068790625noreply@blogger.com