What I hate even more than being quoted out of context is being quoted as saying things I never said. As far as I can recall, we never addressed on this blog the issue of rationalism vs.mysticism with respect to ta'amei hamitvot. Instead of dealing with the mekoros in our previous fisking, as predicated, the Skeptic is attempting another "snow" job. The issue that was being discussed was whether kelapei shemaya the belief in Orthopraxy, defined by Skeptic as "Orthopraxy is someone who keeps Halachot, but doesn’t necessarily believe in Torah Min Hashamayim or even the existence of God" is consistant with Orthodox belief. The mekoros we went through established that one who denies belief in G-d is a min, even a goy who morally observes 7 mitzvos but does not believe they came from G-d does not go to olam haba, and that these beliefs have practical halachic import. I never suggested (as some commentators wrote) that one needs to ask someone if they are a min to drink their wine - the entire discussion was simply klapei shemaya. Just another red herring I want to dispel. I awaited the big response that would deal with the mekoros, but instead all I found was the usual tired rant about doing mitzvos for rational reasons. But that's not what we were discussing! So I ventured into the danger zone to point out that the issue of rationalism was irrelevant, and to whit, not a single makor was offered that would suggest belief in G-d is optional. Skeptic did not marshal a single rishon. Not a single gemara. Not a single quote from a respected Rav who would go on record as being an agnostic or weak atheist.
So what are we to do with the Chazal's that tell us who merits olam haba, the Rishonim who pasken on the issue and define min and apikores, the halachos that devolve from these issues. The response:
>>>Oh ok, well that makes it a lot easier then. I would assume the answer is no, one doesn't have to believe in anything to get to olam habah, you just have to be a good person. Or do you think God is so vindictive as to penalize an honest agnostic with eternal hell (or Karet) ? Or perhaps you are confusing Judaism with Christianity?Of course since every single person that ever lived, including all Acharonim, all Rishonim and all Chazal HAVE NO FREAKIN IDEA WHATSOEVER about what Olam Habah really is nor what it takes to get there (or not), my answer is pure conjecture. But it is as good as anyone elses guess, plus it makes a heck of a lot more sense than your idiot philosophy.<<<
Oh well. Open a gemara and Rambam and check the mekoros - unlike my opponent, I actually gave some last post (start with perek cheilek and ch 3 of hilcos tshuvah). Decide for yourself if Chazal had an idea and addressed the issue of who goes to olam haba. I rest my case. Nothing more needs to be said.