Monday, March 07, 2011

simchas Purim vs. simchas Yom Tov (II)

Last week (link) we explained that there is no din of ain m’arvin simcha b’simcha when it comes to getting married on Purim because simchas Purim is not a characteristic of the kedushas hayom but is a detail specific to the chiyuv seudah.

Other sources seem to indicate otherwise. The Shulchan Aruch quotes a view (yesh mi she’omer) that an onein may eat meat and drink wine the night of Purim because the communal obligation of simcha overrides the private obligation of aninus / aveilus. The chiyuiv of seudah on Purim does not begin until the next day; clearly, the simcha which pushes off aveilus is of a more general nature. The fact that we wear bigdei Shabbos on Purim night, that at night we (according to the Rama) “yismach v’yirbeh ktzas b’seudah,” eat a festive meal, albeit a less lavish one than during the day, all point to a more global chiyuv of simcha.

If so, hadra kushya l’duchta – why is one allowed to hold a wedding on Purim but not on Yom Tov? Rav Zolti answers, based on a careful reading of the Rama in Darkei Moshe, that the din of ain m’arvin simcha b’simcha applies where the halacha of simcha directs us to focus our attention on the celebration of the day itself – v’samachta b’chagecha. Not so Purim, which is a day of “mishteh v’simcha -- b’kol mah d’misameiach sagi leih,” as the Rama writes -- however and whatever you chose to have simcha about is a fulfillment of the mitzvas hayom. If holding a wedding brings you simcha, that does not contradict the spirit of the day – to the contrary, that is what the spirit of the day is all about.


  1. Both are great clear Torah! But maybe with your rayah you we can redefine the chiluk. There's the outcome of a day of simcha which is the peulas mitzvas hayom. But theres also 2 types of days of happines. Theres a yom simcha, and theres yom hachag. The pasuk says be bsimcha in your chag, theres a yom chag that requires a maasa simcha. But i was troubled earlier that by purim you need a kedushas yom to require a mitzvas hayom. So by purim theres just a yom simcha (or mishteh vsimcha) here although we are making a split, trei dina, we are still sticking to preexisting yisodos.

  2. Or clearer, The din simcha on yt and Purim differ. On yt the pasuk says vsamachta bchagecha, the yom is simcha and the maasa to be puka the chalos kedushas yt is with wine. By Purim it's the opposite. The din yom is mishteh vesimcha, the drinking is to get to the simcha. By yt there's simcha there anyway so mmeila you need to drink wine Cause there's already simcha, wine is simcha. But by Purim there's no simcha so you need to create the simcha, get to a state of simcha.