Monday, January 07, 2013

Chuck Hagel and the naive

I've written before about the blind faith segments of the Jewish community place in the Democratic party even as Obama and other members of that party increasingly ignore or act against Jewish interests.  I expect these constituents to once again turn a blind eye to the White House's nomination of Chuck Hagel as defense secretary.  Who is Chuck Hagel?  

Nebraska Jews Recall Senator Chuck Hagel as ‘Unfriendly’ and ‘Unmovable’ on Israel, ‘Didn’t Give a Damn About the Jewish Community."

"He [Senator Lindsey graham] added, 'This is an in-your-face nomination by the president to all of us who are supportive of Israel.'" 

"“The record speaks for itself, on issues like consistently voting against sanctions on Iran to stop their pursuit of nuclear weapons capability, against naming [Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps] a terrorist organization, refusing to call on the European Union to name Hezbollah — which has killed more Americans than any terrorist group in the world except Al Qaeda — as a terrorist organization,” said Josh Block, a former AIPAC spokesman."

"With the possible exception of former KKK member Robert Byrd of West Virginia, Chuck Hagel is arguably the most hostile anti-Israel U.S. senator ever to serve."

However, the Hagel appointment does illustrate not only his level of comfort with someone who has floated Walt-Mearsheimer-style rhetoric about the “Jewish lobby” but also a man who has been an advocate of taking the use of force against Iran off the table. 

Even the Washington Post editorializes:

"On the contrary: Mr. Hagel’s stated positions on critical issues, ranging from defense spending to Iran, fall well to the left of those pursued by Mr. Obama during his first term — and place him near the fringe of the Senate that would be asked to confirm him....  But Mr. Obama could make a better choice for defense secretary."

That's like Pravda editorializing against a nominee put forth by Lenin.  

Again, from the left, we have Alan Dershowitz, a man who always seems to be waking up after the fact:

"He is the only mainstream American politician to talk openly about how “the Jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people.”... But Hagel apparently sees things in terms of Jewish interests versus American interests."

If you read the whole article you can't help but laugh as Dershowitz argues that Obama has made clear that he will do whatever it takes to thwart Iran from getting nukes and therefore the nomination of Hagel, who opposes military force against Iran in favor of containment, runs contrary to the President's stated aims.  Poor Mr. Dershowitz can't seem to understand that the President's professed intent to prevent Iran from getting nukes was just that -- a professed statement designed to garner the support from fools like Dershowitz who are naive enough to believe mere words -- even while the President's actions reveal his true intent.   

Update: Ed Koch has now predictably chimed in:

Gee, if you thought that, why did you characterize him as a friend of Israel?
“It’s very disappointing, I believe he will ultimately regret it,” Koch said, “and it undoubtedly will reduce support for him in the Jewish community, but I don’t think he (the President) worries about that now that the election is over.”
Exactly.  The election is over -- you rubes have been taken in and now we all pay the price.  

The GOP has been a Grand Old disaPpointment, but no more of a disappointment than the 70% of Jews whose vote gave support for this stuff, but I sadly am no longer surprised by the stupidity of my brethren.   


  1. Remember, a large portion of "Jews" today are actually from the ערוב רב, if that makes you feel better.

    Dershowitz is a classical illustration of the difference between intelligence and שכל

    But ultimately, for many in the 70% that voted for Obama, if it came down to a clear choice between Israel and abortion, the priority would be "reproductive rights" every time. So there's nothing new here, just the final removal of the fig leaf of people like Wasserman-Schultz, who claimed that Obama is the best President for Israel there ever was.

    Yes indeed: when the armies of גוג ומגוג gather to attack ירושלים, there will be Jews in their ranks, as foretold by זכריה. And I never did believe the apologetics approach that this would be because of coercion.

    I told one of my תלמידים that if a certain known Obama supporter ever says a משברך for ארץ ישראל it's אסור to answer אמן; because, אין זה מברך אלא מנאץ.

    So let's sit back and enjoy מהרסיך ומחרביך and look forward to פורים when we can discuss it with יוחנן ההולך and תרנגול הודו פרוע. Cheers.

  2. great unknown3:20 PM

    Just to make you feel better:

    There comes a point where there is no more דן לכף זכות. [Although regarding most of the people here, there is an active חיוב to be דן לכף חוב].

  3. People like me look to future and imagine conversations like this:
    Oh, isn't it nice of them to make us wear these yellow bands so that the cars can see us at night and the police have no trouble identifying us when we need help. And isn't it nice of them to relocate us Jews so that we all live together in the same neighborhood behind these walls that keep no-goodniks out at night. And I know the job program they made us all join doesn't pay, but at least we get training and work everyday...

    I used to wonder how it things could have played out the way they did in the 1930's. I wonder no more.

    1. great unknown8:10 PM

      It is reported that many Jews in Germany voted for the Socialist Party in the 30's. The National Socialist Party.

      BTW, how do people in NY plan to be מקיים what is apparently a מדאורייתא based on the gemara in ben sorer: השכם להרגו?

  4. Anonymous2:04 PM

    Great Unknown: Prove your assertion with documented evidence, if you can. Germany at the time had various socialist parties, not only the NSDAP.

    Everyone: Whenever you read of a Jewish politician (D-Anything) covering up for Obama and his stooges, ask that pol to join a more civilized party.

    1. great unknown6:49 PM

      try this for a start:

      many of the Jewish politicians covering up for Obama wouldn't be accepted in a civilized party, let alone a "more civilized" one. DWS and Nadler come to mind immediately.

  5. Jewish liberals will point to the handful of times Hagel didn't vote against Israel on some inconsequential manner and say "See! He's not anti-Israel".
    At any rate, Obama made a brilliant choice. For four years he's listened to people warn that he's anti-Israel and so Jews should vote Republican. And now he's found a Republican that makes him look positively Zionist.
    On another note, it's well known that Jews voted for the Nazis. They thought the anti-Jewish rhetoric was just to get votes and they were impressed with Hitler's commitment to family morality and law and order.