R’ Ya’akov Emden asks m’mah nafshach: if these individuals
did not worship avodah zarah and were therefore not celebrating, what
was the point of sending a gift? And if
they were celebrating, then sending the gift should have been asur?
He answers that the holiday in question was New Years. For ovdei avodah zarah, the day
has religious significance - New Years was originally a pagan holiday dedicated
to the Roman god Janus. However, the day
also has secular significance, as it was the start of the new Julien calendar
year, when new civil servants took office and the Roman Senate convened.
Had the non-Jews in question been idolaters
celebrating the New Year as a religious holiday, then R’ Yehudah and Rava would
not have sent gifts. But since they were
not idolaters and were just celebrating the day as a secular holiday, the gifts
were just expressions of good will.
I have not looked into whether there are teshuvos on this
issue, but it seems to me that most people today do not celebrate even December
25 as a religious holiday, and certainly not New Years. Last week I heard one radio talk show host (who
happens to be Jewish, though not religious) discuss his visit to a certain
cathedral the night of yom eidam not to celebrate their religion, but stam,
because it was a beautiful building and the prayers and singing were nice. It’s the aesthetic appeal that was the
attraction, not the religious meaning. I
think most people share that sentiment. Isn’t
that why churches advertise that people should put you-know-who back into the
holiday? The “holiday season,” as they
call it, is more about shopping than worship.
L’havdil (I guess that term is appropriate), if you were to attend a service
at a Reconstructionist temple, the chazzinit would probably have a beautiful
voice and the prayers would speak about G-d (if they even mention him)
bestowing his grace on all humanity and other such empty platitudes. Religion for the masses at best boils down to
belief in a generic god that makes few demands (i.e. not too many
do’s and dont’s) along with an assortment of liberal values and virtues. In other words, secular humanism without the
taint of atheism. If that's the case, then I would guess that gift
giving during this season is not that different than the cases in the gemara. Again, I'm just writing off the cuff as a hava amina, but one would have to check if there are sources that deal with the issue.
UPDATE: For more on this topic, see Shu"T Bnei Banim vol 3 siman 35.
UPDATE: For more on this topic, see Shu"T Bnei Banim vol 3 siman 35.
Is there not major discussion of thanksgiving?
ReplyDeleteThe 3rd Thurs in November was never formally declared a religious holiday by any church (as far as I know); the 25th of Dec was. Xmas seems more overtly religious in nature.
DeleteBut if the days yisod Started off being a pagan holiday and it's asur, shouldn't that asur the day always? Like he great said about Thanksgiving?
ReplyDeleteI think the Ya'avatz is saying that when the holiday was instituted, some observed it as a religious celebration, others observed it simply as a secular holiday.
DeleteHistorically, I don't know if that is likely - the Romans originally celebrated the New Year at the beginning of March (that is why, for example, the tenth month is called October).
DeleteBTW, your perspective is somewhat parochial. You live in an area [the Accela corridor] where religion is generally superficial or considered a joke. Visit a "bitter clinger" area at year end and see how frum goyim act.
ReplyDeleteIm Sorry, but what are you talking about??
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